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Aristolochia macroura giveaway (a Nepenthes wannabe)

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RandyS

I know a lot of people who grow Carnivorous Plants also grow Aristolochias. I'm always surprised that more don't.

These I'll send for postage. I am also looking for trades, for Nepenthes plants, seedlings, cuttings (rooted, unrooted). See also my other post: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/showthread.php/138075-Non-CPs-for-Nepenthes

The one I have available for postage is Aristolochia macroura. I have 12 that were rooted a few weeks ago, potted up, and adjusted to inside humidity. I also have 30 more rooted cuttings that I just removed from their crowded rooting chambers and will pot up after I finish typing. The giveaway is initially for the 12, but I will hopefully follow up with some of the 30.

At first glance, the flowers of Aristolochia macroura bear some resemblance to the pitchers of Nepenthes. Both are modified leaves and are designed to catch (usually) insects. The Aristolochia does it for pollination, not food, and releases the flies after a day (inward pointing hairs shrivel, I think), hopefully covered with pollen to visit the next flower...

As far as I know this is basically an outdoor plant, although I assume there are people skilled enough to grow it and bloom it inside. It tends to bloom in the Spring around here, and in our climate is probably a zone 9b plant.

Here are photos of a previous plant in bloom which I grew in Sunnyvale, CA., cuttings originally from Albert H. The current clone is from Annie's Annuals, and may or may not be the same clone. I don't know.

<a href="http://s333.photobucket.com/user/mark43210/media/off%20topic/IMG_3833.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m393/mark43210/off%20topic/IMG_3833.jpg" border="0" alt="Aristolochia trilobata: 1 flower + 2 buds photo IMG_3833.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s333.photobucket.com/user/mark43210/media/Photos%20for%20Terra%20Forums/821776b9-d540-4562-956f-77ecdbea1ff3_zps607b534f.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m393/mark43210/Photos%20for%20Terra%20Forums/821776b9-d540-4562-956f-77ecdbea1ff3_zps607b534f.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 821776b9-d540-4562-956f-77ecdbea1ff3_zps607b534f.jpg"/></a>

And here are the 12 rooted cuttings that are ready to go:

<a href="http://s333.photobucket.com/user/mark43210/media/Photos%20for%20Terra%20Forums/AristolochiamacrourapottedcuttingsforTerraForums_zps58713f6d.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m393/mark43210/Photos%20for%20Terra%20Forums/AristolochiamacrourapottedcuttingsforTerraForums_zps58713f6d.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo AristolochiamacrourapottedcuttingsforTerraForums_zps58713f6d.jpg"/></a>

And the 30 that I will pot up tonight.

<a href="http://s333.photobucket.com/user/mark43210/media/Photos%20for%20Terra%20Forums/AristolochiamacrourarootedcuttingsforTerraForum_zps6afe9d07.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m393/mark43210/Photos%20for%20Terra%20Forums/AristolochiamacrourarootedcuttingsforTerraForum_zps6afe9d07.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo AristolochiamacrourarootedcuttingsforTerraForum_zps6afe9d07.jpg"/></a>

Even single node cuttings root easily and quickly with bottom heat, using moist perlite as a medium, in an enclosed environment.

Shipping will likely cost $7.15 potted (or a little less closer to CA) for Priority mail, although there may be cheaper options, such as a First Class Parcel ($4 roughly, again potted), although I don't have many small boxes. I am not opposed to trying to send one in a padded envelope, (partially) bareroot, which would be somewhere around $3-$4. The cheaper options might be particularly risky this time of year.

Randy
 
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I wanted to give a better view of the 12 rooted cuttings that are ready to go. All or most are single node cuttings with new growth. Roots and new growth typically come out of the node, and roots also out of the bottom cut site. So the cuttings are typically buried a little higher than the node.

<a href="http://s333.photobucket.com/user/mark43210/media/Aristolochiamacrourarootedcuttingssideview_zps56fe92eb.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m393/mark43210/Aristolochiamacrourarootedcuttingssideview_zps56fe92eb.png" border="0" alt=" photo Aristolochiamacrourarootedcuttingssideview_zps56fe92eb.png"/></a>
 
1: radagast
2: yourrealmom

what a cool looking plant! I'm very interested. I'm afraid I don't have any nep cuttings to offer in trade, but if you're interested in Drosera I have lots of pygmy sundew gemmae that I'm parceling out. at risk of blowing up your inbox I'll PM you as well.
 
1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12

Count me in as well, very interesting looking plant. I don't really grow news but I may have some ping cuttings or sarr divisions I can spare, if your interested feel free to PM me.
 
1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12
4. hcarlton

I have 2 species of Aristolochia, this is one my seeds failed on...
 
1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12
4. hcarlton
5.dozer1028 very cool.. I'm in...
 
1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12
4. hcarlton
5. dozer1028 very cool.. I'm in...
6. knepenthe
 
hahah i' sure you'll have some winners who could pick up from you.
 
  • #10
1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12
4. hcarlton
5. dozer1028 very cool.. I'm in...
6. knepenthe
7. goods
 
  • #11
Let us know when you want postage payments. ...
 
  • #12
dozer1028 said:
Let us know when you want postage payments. ...
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Thanks for the reminder. I'll try to contact everyone tonight.

I was at the post office a few minutes ago, and everything seems more or less back to normal. Of course we still lose a day this week.
 
  • #13
Nice! I love Aristolochias! Do you grow any other species such as A. grandiflora?

I had a nice collection of them a few years back, including some NO-ID one from Chile that was a ground covering scrambler.
 
  • #14
I'm down for one if they're still available!
 
  • #15
Was the Chilean plant either A. bridgesii or A. chilensis? I just did a search and found a paper that said those are the only two Aristolochias in Chile. That could be wrong, or out of date... My mom has A. chilensis, a plant that I picked up at Annie's Annuals. It needs more sun than I have, and is also prone to spider mites.

I have a few other species and hybrids:

A. fimbriata. I bought a vigorous 1 gallon pot for $9 this year. A strong bloomer, and each flower seems to be quickly followed with a seed pod.

A. grandiflora: I got a Logee's plant as a gift, propagated it, but eventually it died. This plant likes a lot more heat than we have, especially in winter. So it comes in for winter, and then seems to do poorly. I did give rooted cuttings to a few people with better conditions (Favian?).

A. leuconeura: Used to have, it, but I think seedlings eventually died. Again, cold (or cool, technically, since I don't get frost) is a problem.

A. trilobata (not A. macroura--apparently both are best described as two varieties of A. trilobata): I might still have this, but I think it died at some point.

A. gigantea and hybrids. This is where it gets confusing, and hopefully I explain it correctly. There's a theory (from Philipp Gießibl in Germany, I think) , which I think is almost certainly right. The suggestion is that there are two species: A. gigantea brasiliensis (the one with huge, lemon-scented, 14-16 inch flowers) and A. elegans (littorals) with 3 inch flowers. Everything else called A. gigantea is some sort of hybrid between the two. Generally, the larger the flower, and the more of a tendency to have the lemon scent (actually it smells identical to Lemon Pledge), the higher the fraction of A. gigantea brasiliensis. People have remade plants resembling typical A. gigantea using A. gigantea brasiliensis and A. elegans.

So assuming that idea is correct, I have one species, and two hybrids:

A. gigantea brasilensis (1 year old seedlings, so far unbloomed).

A. gigantea (typical form). Perhaps 1/2 A. gigantea brasiliensis, 1/2 A. elegans. Originally from Kartuz, now sold by Grassy Knoll Exotics. 10 inch flowers, lemon scented. Especially good for Southern California, but will bloom in N. California. A friend bloomed this in her apartment in January in Boulder, CO.

This was in Sunnyvale, CA:



I got the plant back from Grassy Knoll, and so far it's limping along, planted in the ground. Possibly again it's a little too cool, or not enough sun (trees and buildings, not climate).

UCBG Aristolochia: 1/4 A. gigantea brasiliensis, 3/4 A. elegans. There was a bit of discussion of this plant that UCBG was selling as A. durior x elegans. A. durior is cold hardy (zone 5!) and has a different number of chromosomes. The hybrid is not what it's claimed to be, and UCBG still needs to fix this. Most "experts" who have seen it think it is part A. elegans, part the "typical" A. gigantea (which is presumably already part A. elegans). So 1/4 A. gigantea brailiensis is the simplest interpretation, but there could be others. It has 5-6 inch flowers (at least) no scent. It maybe better for cool climates than those that are bigger and have a higher fraction of A. gigantea brasilensis in their background.



I hopefully have a couple small Aristolochia californica. If it's dormant right now, it could get discarded...
 
  • #16
Hopefully I've contacted everyone below.

I forgot to ask everyone if they wanted Aristolochia fimbriata seeds. These are from this years crop--I just picked the most recent ones a couple days ago. That species is known for being small, trailing rather than climbing, variegated, with small but unusual flowers. A caudiciform. It's also supposedly hardy to zone 7. Aristolochia seeds are surface sown, and can be a bit slow.

1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12
4. hcarlton
5. dozer1028 very cool.. I'm in...
6. knepenthe
7. goods
8. MasterLow
 
  • #17
To add to the above description of Aristolochias, I do have seeds of the following that I need to plant now:

A. leuconeura (germinated quickly on first attempt, from Butterfly World)
A. chapmanii (never planted, also from Butterfly World)
A. ridicula (did not germinate first time, from Mauro Peixoto/Brazil Seeds).

A. leuconeura is cool because it has variegated leaves and is cauliflorous. A. ridicula is just bizarre. Both of those are warm growers. I don't know much about A. chapmanii.
 
  • #18
Thank you very much. . Payment sent.
 
  • #19
1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12
4. hcarlton
5. dozer1028 very cool.. I'm in...
6. knepenthe
7. goods
8. MasterLow
9. Reg - Thanks! Very cool plant!

Would it be possible for me to mail you a money order instead of using paypal or a similar service?
 
  • #20
Is there room for one more?

If so, may I be presumptuous and add the following?


1: radagast
2: yourrealmom
3: axelrod12
4. hcarlton
5. dozer1028 very cool.. I'm in...
6. knepenthe
7. goods
8. MasterLow
9. Reg - Thanks! Very cool plant!
10 Lil Stinkpot
 
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