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and exactly why are you excluding the genderqueer ?
Even though the raspberry smiley face implies sarcasm, I'm going to go ahead and say this, anyway.
From the gay people I've spoken to and the anthropology classes I've taken, western culture, queer or straight, tends to identify as either masculine, feminine, or something in between, that nonetheless borrows from these two genders. There aren't any
third genders that we can deem as exclusive. The queer community still falls under these gender roles, as far as our culture regards them. Therefore, the only people who would be left out of this thread would be the hijras of Indian and Pakistan; kathoeys, or "ladyboys" of Thailand; or the berdache of the Native American tribes, all of which are considered neither masculine nor feminine, but something completely removed. It's hard for people in the west to wrap their heads around it (this very debate dragged on for nearly four hours in one of my anthropology classes), but these cultures see the above genders as neither feminine or masculine, a concept we simply do not have.
Anyway, I hope this dispels any hints of discrimination (with the exception of those third gender CP enthusiasts who may want a Sarracenia hybrid).
Let's not turn this into a debate on Travis' giveaway thread, though! If anyone is interested in discussing it more, please create a new thread.
