N. Red Hairy Hamata

[David95]

Hello, im wondering what people have to say about the growing conditions of the Hairy Red Hamata. I do know its a highlander but does it do better as an ultrahighlander or no? Ive also seen where people even grow them on their windowsills so i was wondering from people who have grown them, what the best results came from. Thank you for at least taking the time to read this.

 

[NemJones]

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[w03]

If I recall correctly, red hairy hamata is quite a bit pickier and slower than normal hamata, so the generalizations from normal hamata probably don't apply very well.

 

[Whimgrinder]

If I recall correctly, red hairy hamata is quite a bit pickier and slower than normal hamata, so the generalizations from normal hamata probably don't apply very well.

This is a distinct species and cannot be compared to N. hamata. Generalizations about its cultivation requirements are to be viewed as very general only and not particularly useful.

 

[Bio]

This is a distinct species and cannot be compared to N. hamata. Generalizations about its cultivation requirements are to be viewed as very general only and not particularly useful.

If I recall correctly, red hairy hamata is quite a bit pickier and slower than normal hamata, so the generalizations from normal hamata probably don't apply very well.

Exactly. The "Red Hairy hamata" is more of an ultrahighlander than the true N. hamata. Their culture is about as similar as N. truncata and N. veitchii. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

 

[mksmith]

Nepenthes hamata is easy to grow in general and much easier in comparison to RHH. Yes, RHH does better as an 'ultra-highlander' for temperature so you are looking at day temps 65-75° and nights 45-55° which can be difficult to maintain year-around. RHH is also much slower than n. hamata and very sensitive to change, i.e. changes with regards to distance to light source, humidity fluctuation, drying out of soil, etc. I don't think you could grow RHH on an windowsill successfully, and is not a plant that should be tackled unless you have years of highland Nepenthes experience growing. It needs stability, I remember having issues when I moved 2-3 years ago, the plant was not happy even though the setup was identical.

 

[Cthulhu138]

I grow this plant and it is by far the most difficult Nepenthes I've ever grown. It would be virtually impossible to grow this species on a windowsill unless you live atop a mountain somewhere in a tropical cloud forest. It's slow, picky and extremely sensitive to humidy, temperature and light levels, at least while young. I would not recommend this species (if you can even find one) to anyone but the most expert of growers and even then, many of them fail to keep this species alive for very long. 100% perfect UHL conditions are needed for this plant. Paul would probably even find this plant frustrating to keep happy.

 

[Heli]

Yeah not only is it incredibly hard to grow, its also very hard to find and if you do find it, very expensive. So you might as well burn 300 dollars because that would probably be more entertaining than trying to grow one of BE's red hairy hamata . I do not have the species yet so I cannot say for sure but I have a feeling that the plants that have been released by BE are generally very weak specimens. Most people fail with their plants but a few growers have had success getting them to vine in seemingly typical highland conditions. In my opinion I think you should wait until it becomes a more commonplace species, if you already have nepenthes experience you might want to try the typical hamata first and then maybe a villosa before even considering RHH.

 

[Cthulhu138]

I don't even have one of the BE plants and it's a total pain to grow.

 

[Heli]

Johnny, yours was from Mark right? If I remember correctly that one was from BE's second release when they tried and failed to tissue culture the species.

 

[Cthulhu138]

I was led to believe it was a seed grown when I bought it.

 

[Heli]

Oh, it might be from BE's initial seed grown release then. Considering the difficulty of the species I could see it still being that small even from when they were initially released.

 

[Cthulhu138]

It is indeed small and hasn't put on any real size since I got it. It puts out a new leaf every few months but refuses to pitcher. I'm giving it until the end of the month, then I'm going to try something new with it.

 

[Heli]

Honestly it will probably never do much for you until you can get it nights below 55 with super high humidity. That seems like the only way to keep it long term.

 

[Cthulhu138]

My nights are in the 40's with around 90% humidity this time of year.

 

[mksmith]

It is just hard to grow, even with optimal conditions. Slow to say the least.

 

[Heli]

mm yeah thats interesting then. I cant wait to try the species for myself.

 

[nepenthesl0ve]

are there any growers out there who grew this plant successfully? curious how it does after the initial juvenile stage

 

[zcons]

I have been growing a seed grown specimen from JH for over a year now. It is quite vigorous and has gone from 2-3 cm -> 12cm in diameter. I can post some photos in a bit. The conditions have been mostly highland as I grow it in the same space as all of my other nepenthes.

 

[zcons]

Here are a few photos with a little progression.

June 1st, 2018
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August 20th, 2018
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November 24th, 2018
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December 31st, 2018
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You might note that in the last photo, the recent leaves and pitchers have a bit of deformation. It started after a particularly hot and dry summer, but I am not sure the true cause of this. Hopefully it stops. Otherwise the plant seems healthy!