There is an auction for a large N. macrophylla on eBay right now that I'm sure several of you have seen. The seller has obviously invested a great deal of time and patience and it's his or her choice to set the hoops however they want for anyone wanting to jump in but if I were selling that high I would have either waited until several fresh pitchers had set or would have whacked off those dead and dying ones and just used file pictures of fully flushed pitchers from the past. A couple of the rules listed in the details sound a little preemptory and harsh like blocking a bidder from ever bidding on any future auctions if they dare offer a lower price. I might check back in a few days to see if it sells but I am betting it doesn't.