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[nepenthes gracilis]

Now with DSL capabilities I have updated my photo album of Georgia. I did Brooks Garcia's and ABG's galleries and I will finish my visit with Henning von Schmeling sometime this weekend, but there is enough there to entertain you for now!

http://www.cpforums.org/gallery/Dustins-CPs

 

[cool85k5]

Thanks for sharing Dustin!It will take a while to look at all these pictures!


Jerry

 

[Alvin Meister]

Great photos!

Is this formosa x minor?

Another one too - this looks like a var. atropurpurea, not rubricorpora to me. And a very nice specimen it is too!

 

[nepenthes gracilis]

The minor there Alvin, is actually material from Barry Rice and is supposedly the var. Okeefenokensis. The flava Tony has and is labeled var. rubricorpurea from Triffid Park, I believe it is atropurp as well.

 

[nepenthes gracilis]

All photos are uploaded!

 

[Juan-Carlos]

Very nice!

-Jc

 

[Sarraceniaobsessed]

Fromosa?! Hmmm? I never thought of that this plant maybe a hybrid. It was sent to me by Barry Rice and is labled as 'Okee Giant.' The red color did seem a bit out of character though.
Nice Pics there Dustin.

 

[nepenthes gracilis]

Thanks Brooks! Hows things down in Georgia? Plants are doing great up here, getting sleepy tho!

 

[Tony Paroubek]

I don't have much info on the S. flava.  Dustin is correct, I had gotten them from Triffid Park in AU.  They only had a few and they were listed and labelled as rubricorpora.  They were clearly from division.  I got 3 (all they had), and sold one.  I have never seen them listed again, trust me I have checked ALOT!  I don't know if they were all the same clone or not but odds are yes.  They have not flowered yet but I am hoping this coming spring.  The pitcher Dustin took a picture of was easily 24" tall.  In the few years I have had them they have gotten larger AND DARKER!  Although the color does vary a bit from pitcher to pitcher year to year.  Now I wish I had kept all 3

Here is a picture of the other plant from the 2004 season

Tony

 

[Alvin Meister]

Quote[/b] ]Fromosa?! Hmmm? I never thought of that this plant maybe a hybrid. It was sent to me by Barry Rice and is labled as 'Okee Giant.' The red color did seem a bit out of character though.
Nice Pics there Dustin.

They seem to have that leathery look to them and the hoods aren't quite as overhanging as in most minors. Look at the fourth pitcher in from the right - definitely looks like some psittacina in there to me.

 

[Bugweed]

Don't count on the s. flava not being var. rubricorpora. I have 4 plants from an s. flava var. rubricorpora that is the classic look of the variety. Out of this selfed flower came a ton of seed. Three years later, out of all those babies (who have homes in the general area now), 4 looked like var. atropurpurea they were so fully colored. By varietal standards, they would have to be called var. atropurpurea. However, I selfed the plant myself, and bagged the bloom, and know nothing else pollinated it, and know the plant IS rubricorpora, but thank God for genetics, because sometimes you get thrown some real beauties, and these 4 were deep red-purple, top to bottom, inside and out. Still rubricorpora, but because of varietal description, you now have an atropurpurea. NOT SO, but it can fool you but good where these varity names are concerned. I know what they are, but those who have not experienced seed germination, and growing them out, might never see the vast color forms, within the forms!!!!

 

[Alvin Meister]

Wouldn't a rubricorpora that had crossed with atropurpurea a couple of generations back express atropurpurea characteristics in some of the offspring? This plant would surely be described as atropurpurea? In a few areas, such as the Sandy Creek Road sites, atropurp and rubricorp grow together.

A selfed flava var. flava 'Maxima' threw up a copper topped plant incidently. Genetics are strange!

 

[Tony Paroubek]

What are the differences anyway If they are based on coloring and color patterns it is a poor method since color in many cases within a single clone is variable based on age and growing conditions. Within a whole population the range could be endless.

What other characteristics besides color can you use to determine S. flava v. rubricorpora vs atropurpurea? I just plan on keeping them labelled as is but if the descriptions are purely on color do you label it v. rubricorpora some years and v. atropurpurea in others?? hehe gotta love a good debate.

Tony

 

[Alvin Meister]

LOL

I would say rubricorpora plants never go entirely red. The inside is always a greeny colour. I've got to say I've never seen a plant be all red one year and not the next. If the plant CAN go completely red and has done before, I would go for atropurp regardless of how it looks at that moment.