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Ant

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I have had 4 frogs for 2 years and are currently living in a 20+ gallon tank. I believe they are all girls but I am not sure. They are all happy and plump. I over feed them that is why the water is cloudy.:blush: I use 2 pots and 2 small pieces of PBC pipe to let the hide, I have the fix the pots as the frogs tipped them over. I use a light to heat them up as I don't have a real heater to do it. I love how these frogs can be agressive, once my when I was letting the water sit in the tank they were in my brothers tank with a young oscar. He kept saying that the will be hurt by it but, all of a sudden the little one bit the oscars head and scared the crap out of my brother!:-)) The oscar is fine but, now my brother needs to give it to a pet store that will give it its propper care. I also have a young albino frog in a smaller cage. I hope that it will soon reach mixxing size but that is very unlikly.

My 4 big gal's
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My little albino
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Clint

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That water should not be in such a condition. There's no excuse for that. I don't mean to sound harsh but that's practically a septic tank and these are living animals here, and amphibians at that. Do you do water changes?

If I were you I'd get rid of three of them. Trade them in for credit. They are cute and I'm sure you love them but that's a high bioload and those are messy animals. Do you do any ammonia/nitrite/nitrate tests? At the very least siphon off uneaten food.

Oh and be careful with that light. I'd get a real heater if I were you.
 

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I don't know why that matters, they like cloudy water, their tadpoles even filter fed.:nono:
 

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That is neither of those two, it is a solution so not even the filter can clear it out.
 

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Oh sorry, I don't check ammonia because I add pelets to the filter that are sopposed to get rid of it. I also did a 3/4 water change. The light is only until I can afford a real heater and I secured it As best I can.
 
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Do siphons and regular water changes, the water will clear up, that tank looks disgusting dude. Like water shouldn't look like that, do water tests get some live plants in their or something to help clear it up, thats just gross.
 

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Well now I can see the back of the tank. The color is smelless and is only a problem at seeing them. Once my brothers tank is oscarless my brother is going to take one and the put it in his tank with some full grown chilid's. Also my other brother is going to take the albino in his 30 gallon and maybe on of the bigger ones.
 
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Ant solutions can be filtered... that doesn't make any sense if you got a sweet bio filter (which i recommend) You would have no problems with gross cloudiness. Some live plants also help with cloudiness, they absorb extra nutrient.
 

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3-4 inches. No, scientifically speaking a solution's solute particals are to small to be filteder out, a suspention is what can be filtered.
 

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Scientifically I think you don't know what you're talking about. Ever heard of diatomaceous earth or a micron filter? Reverse osmosis is the perfect example a filter that can separate dissolved solids (REAL dissolved solids by the way. Salts. Not frog **** and rotting tubiflex worms)

I don't expect you to go out and buy a new magnum, and you can't have mine :) Do regular water changes on time, don't rely on zeolite. Get rid of some frogs, vaccume the gravel, consider getting a biowheel if you want to keep all the frogs which I don't recommend. If you don't keep your filter in order, everything it catches will rot.


I'm sorry if I'm sounding harsh but these are living animals. I do know what I'm talking about, by the way. I've always had something aquatic going on, be it a planted tank, a regular aquarium, African clawed frogs, or a reef. Yes I've kept, grown, and propagated coral and other invertebrates like shrimp so I do know a little bit about aquatic husbandry, believe it or not. I can't tell you anymore if you aren't willing to listen to me (us).
 

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Not what I ment by filter, I ment the things like filter paper can't filter a solution. As I don't have my own money and my family is tring to support 2 kids in colledge I can't get plants or a new filter.
 

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Really it would be better if I spred them out in the house as there is no pet store that sells them and I don't like the risk of shipping.
 
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Can I have your frogs for my collection of preserved animals when they die?

I figure I should ask since it won't be long, given the abysmal care you provide.

Seriously, some people shouldn't be allowed to own animals.

Mokele
 

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In my cousins care they lived a summer with no food with her not knowing they were alive. There is no way a hardy animal like this would die in my care like that. Second they ARE healthy. They have lived "2" years in my care so why should it change now? When I was first caring for them, one of them begain to get bubbles under its skin, there is now sign of it ever being there after placing it "next" to the fridge to cool. I have never had a single frog die on me. Also what kind of sick person would do that to any animal, if anything let it go back to nature, that is just gross.
 

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Those sick people happen to be scientist, and without those sickos we wouldn't know nearly anything about surgery and anatomy. We'd know very little about nomenclature as well.
 
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In my cousins care they lived a summer with no food with her not knowing they were alive. There is no way a hardy animal like this would die in my care like that. Second they ARE healthy. They have lived "2" years in my care so why should it change now? When I was first caring for them, one of them begain to get bubbles under its skin, there is now sign of it ever being there after placing it "next" to the fridge to cool.

Blah ****ing blah. Xenopus are extremely hardy, but that means jack ****. Humans can survive just fine when continually surrounded with the scent of rotting flesh and feces, but that doesn't mean it's pleasant, nor a humane situation.

A keeper who had any sort of responsibility or cared even slightly for their animals would actually ensure that they lived in conditions that were optimal, not merely survivable. Anyone who actually had a heart wouldn't keep animals in filthy water because they're too stupid, cheap and lazy to go buy a damn filter. They're $40 freaking dollars!

Also what kind of sick person would do that to any animal, if anything let it go back to nature, that is just gross.

Notice I said "when they die"; evidently your reading skills are on par with your animal care skills.

I'd not kill the animals; you're doing that yourself. I'd simply ensure that their deaths wouldn't be in vain, and they could serve an educational purpose.



Oh, and you want to know the irony: the dead animals I have in jars of alcohol receive better care than your live frogs. I at least change the alcohol once in a while.

Seriously, give them away, preferably to someone who actually cares.

Mokele
 
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