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Is this actually N. ventricosa?

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I got this as a Nepenthes ventricosa, although it doesn't have the hourglass figure or typical peristome. Does anyone know what it is?

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It's either pure ventricosa....or it's hybrid, N x "ventrata"...you will be able to tell more as it gets older.
 
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Hard to say, Drew. I think you'll need to watch it for another 6 months to see how it matures. Fifteen months ago I bought one of my first TC'd Nepenthes and it was N. ventricosa "red". As a juvenile plant, it barely resembled any of the photos of ventricosa I saw, but there's no mistaking it now!
 
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The newest pitcher looks much more like ventricosa. The old pitcher is in the background.

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Young ventricosa plants don't have the hourglass shape we all love and know. They're sort of late bloomers in terms of when they finally show mature pitcher shape. Yours deffinately looks like a young ventricosa, but time will tell for sure.
 

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Probs a ventrata... Mabes seedgrown. My venty baby pitchers look like that but they're a bit more tubby with a plumper bottom. I would say SG ventrata, but not 100% positive.

Where'd you get it?

Is it seed grown? If it keeps those proportions you should call it N. ventricosa 'Paris Hilton'.

I lol'd. :p
 
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A ventrata pitcher probably would have more wings yes, but ventricosa pitchers seem to be some of the few which never have wings in just about any part of their growth cycle. Something I've noticed about my ventricosas is also the typical color difference shown here between top and bottom portions of the pitchers. I'd say this is pure ventricosa, it just needs another year or so to come into its own.
 

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A ventrata pitcher probably would have more wings yes, but ventricosa pitchers seem to be some of the few which never have wings in just about any part of their growth cycle. Something I've noticed about my ventricosas is also the typical color difference shown here between top and bottom portions of the pitchers. I'd say this is pure ventricosa, it just needs another year or so to come into its own.

No no, ventrata has the opposite of wings lol. :p
 
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I got ventricosa seed from a reputable Cp nursery (I trust that they are indeed ventricosa), and the seedling pitchers have wings.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/68248217@N04/7119215391/" title="new pics and videos oct.2011 178 by richjam1986, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/7119215391_9f790ba53b.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="new pics and videos oct.2011 178"></a>

The plant in question by Sundrew is still young but is well beyond the seedling stage, so wouldn't necesarily expect it to be showing wings anymore, though they're still not adult pitchers.
 

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Huh?

I have had several ventratas, they have always had winged pitchers. Maybe not big wings, but wings.

None that I have seen have wings. There may be some variations that have them, but I don't think it is common because I haven't seen them at my Nep store, on pictures of them online (without searching "ventrata wings") or anywhere else. I have seen them in pictures online of the baby pitchers, but not on lowers or intermediates or uppers. :(
 

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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/68248217@N04/7119215391/" title="new pics and videos oct.2011 178 by richjam1986, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/7119215391_9f790ba53b.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="new pics and videos oct.2011 178"></a>

I agree there are wings on baby pitchers like that, but not when the plant develops adult lowers, intermediates or uppers.
 
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I practically grew one from seed; the first pitchers were a yellow-cream with noticeable wings, but after a while it started growing red smooth pitchers.
Similar to how my jamban seedlings have wings but the grown-up pitchers don't.
 
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lol thanks for all the responses guys. I agree that this looks like ventricosa, but a larger pitcher is inflating with a potential hourglass figure, so maybe we'll find out!
 
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