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Is CZplants legit?

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Has anyone ordered plants from www.czplants.com? I am wondering if they are a legit site and how the overall quality of the plants are
 
You will need import permits to purchase plants from them, as they are located overseas. I've never ordered from them before.
 
Just FYI I'm pretty sure it's against the forum rules to discuss other CP vendors.
 
Generally discussing overseas companies are tolerated as they are not direct in-state competition.
But yes, anything overseas you're going to need import permits for, and many of us haven't dealt with that side of things yet.
 
I can't speak from personal experience, but what I've picked up from posts of members who have has all been good. For Heliamphora and Cephalotus his selection is tough to beat in the US.
 
Discussion of domestic (US) vendors is not allowed. Discussion of overseas or foreign vendors is allowed to a limited degree - outright reviews should be avoided.

Importing plant material at the very least needs a phytosanitary certificate. There is a new certificate that may also be required - for potato cyst nematode I believe. The vendor/nursery supplies these certificates at a cost to the buyer. Phytosanitary certificates run from $10-200 USD. Some countries require a separate certificate for each taxon. You may need a CITES permit if importing CITES species. If the order is less than 13 taxa (or plants) you do not need a Plant Import permit - you still need the the phytosanitary certificate. If you are importing seeds only if there are 50 or less taxa and 50 or less seeds per taxon you can get a Small Seed Lots permit which exempts the shipment from needing the Phytosanitary certificate. Shipments have to be sent to an inspection center first and sent on to the recipient. The recipient must make arrangements and pay for the shipping from the inspection center - unless it was sent via International Mail.

Are they legit? Yes, if you pay for something you will eventually get something. Whether or not it arrives live or is the species/hybrid advertised remains to be seen. This is a pitfall with any vendor and shipping delays from overseas can be as long as a month or more.
 
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CZPlants phytosanitary certificates are 30 Euros per order. I didn't realize you actually needed a permit to order seeds from overseas though it appears to be free. They do actually guarantee plants will arrive in good condition to EU, US, and Japan though I couldn't tell you how easy it is to follow up on a claim.
 
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Discussion of domestic (US) vendors is not allowed. Discussion of overseas or foreign vendors is allowed to a limited degree - outright reviews should be avoided.

Importing plant material at the very least needs a phytosanitary certificate. There is a new certificate that may also be required - for potato cyst nematode I believe. The vendor/nursery supplies these certificates at a cost to the buyer. Phytosanitary certificates run from $10-200 USD. Some countries require a separate certificate for each taxon. You may need a CITES permit if importing CITES species. If the order is less than 13 taxa (or plants) you do not need a Plant Import permit - you still need the the phytosanitary certificate. If you are importing seeds only if there are 50 or less taxa and 50 or less seeds per taxon you can get a Small Seed Lots permit which exempts the shipment from needing the Phytosanitary certificate. Shipments have to be sent to an inspection center first and sent on to the recipient. The recipient must make arrangements and pay for the shipping from the inspection center - unless it was sent via International Mail.

Are they legit? Yes, if you pay for something you will eventually get something. Whether or not it arrives live or is the species/hybrid advertised remains to be seen. This is a pitfall with any vendor and shipping delays from overseas can be as long as a month or more.

Are you certain about the ability to import 12 plants without an import permit? My understanding is that you can self carry up to 12 plants without a permit, but shipping any quantity requires a permit.
 
Is CZplants legit?

Yes they is.
 
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Yes, they're very well known and legit. I've heard their seeds are cruddy though.
 
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Are you certain about the ability to import 12 plants without an import permit? My understanding is that you can self carry up to 12 plants without a permit, but shipping any quantity requires a permit.

Yes, we've gone over this at least a half dozen times in probably as many threads in the past year or so:

What plant material requires permits?


Under the nursery stock quarantine (7CFR319.37-3), the following restricted articles (other than articles for food, analytical, medicinal, or manufacturing purposes) in any of the following categories may be imported or offered for importation into the United States only after issuance of a written permit by Plant Protection and Quarantine:

  • Lots of 13 or more articles (other than seeds, bulbs, or sterile cultures of orchid plants) from any country or locality except Canada;
  • Seeds of trees or shrubs from any country or locality except Canada;
  • Articles subject to treatment and other requirements of §319.37-6;
  • Articles subject to the postentry quarantine conditions of §319.37-7;
  • Small lots of seed imported without a phytosanitary certificate;
  • Bulbs of Allium sativum , Crocosmia spp., Gladiolus spp. and Watsonia spp. from New Zealand; Cocos nucifera (coconut); and articles (except seeds) of Dianthus spp. from any country except Canada;
  • Articles (except seeds) of Malus spp., Pyrus spp., Prunus spp., Cydonia spp., Chaenomeles spp. and Rubus spp., from Canada;
  • Articles (except seeds) of Castanopsis spp. destined to California or Oregon;
  • Articles of Ribes spp. (including seeds) destined to Massachusetts, New York, West Virginia, or Wisconsin;
  • Articles (except seeds) of Planera spp. or Zelkova spp. from Europe, Canada, St. Pierre Island, or Miquelon Island and destined to California, Nevada, or Oregon;
  • Seeds of Prunus spp. (almond, apricot, cherry, cherry laurel, English laurel, nectarine, peach, plum, prune) from Canada and destined to Colorado, Michigan, New York, Washington, or West Virginia;
  • Articles (except seeds) of Vitis spp. (grape) from Canada and destined to California, New York, Ohio, Oregon, and Washington;
  • Articles (except seeds) of Corylus spp. from provinces east of Manitoba in Canada and destined to Oregon or Washington;
  • Articles (except seeds) of Pinus spp. from Canada;
  • Articles (except seeds) of Ulmus spp. from Canada and destined to California, Nevada, or Oregon;
  • Solanum tuberosum true seed from New Zealand and the X Region of Chile (that area of Chile between 39° and 44° South latitude—see §319.37-5(o));
  • Articles (except seeds) of Fraxinus spp. from counties or municipal regional counties in Canada that are not regulated for emerald ash borer (EAB) but are within an EAB-regulated Province or Territory and are not prohibited under §319.37-2(a).


Other quarantines in 7CFR part 319 prohibit and/or require permits for certain plants and plant parts that are intended for planting. If you wish to import any of the following commodities, please see the appropriate quarantine:

Actually the text on the APHIS site is slightly out of date:

Title 7: Agriculture
PART 319—FOREIGN QUARANTINE NOTICES
Subpart—Plants for Planting


§319.37-3 Permits.

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  • a) The restricted articles (other than articles for food, analytical, medicinal, or manufacturing purposes) in any of the following categories may be imported or offered for importation into the United States only after issuance of a written permit by the Plant Protection and Quarantine Programs in accordance with §§319.7 through 319.7-5:
  • (1) Lots of 13 or more articles (other than seeds of herbaceous plants, precleared bulbs of a taxon approved by APHIS for preclearance, or sterile cultures of orchid plants) from any country or locality except Canada;
  • (2) Seeds of non-herbaceous plants, such as trees and shrubs, from any country or locality except Canada;
  • (3) Articles subject to the requirements of §319.37-5;
  • (4) Articles subject to the postentry quarantine conditions of §319.37-7;
  • (5) Small lots of seed imported in accordance with §319.37-4(d) of this subpart;
  • (6) Articles subject to treatment and other requirements of §319.37-6;
  • (7) Seed of herbaceous plants for planting that is coated, pelleted, or embedded in a substrate that obscures visibility;
  • (8) Articles (except seeds) of Malus spp. (apple, crabapple), Pyrus spp. (pear), Prunus spp., Cydonia spp. (quince), Chaenomeles spp. (flowering quince), Rubus spp. (cloudberry, blackberry, boysenberry, dewberry, loganberry, raspberry), and Vitis spp. (grape) from Canada;
  • (9) Articles (except seeds) of Fraxinus spp. (ash) from counties or municipal regional counties in Canada that are not regulated for emerald ash borer (EAB) but that are within an EAB-regulated Province or Territory and are not prohibited under §317.37-2;
  • (10) Articles (except seeds) of Pinus spp. from Canada; and
  • (11) Solanum tuberosum true seed from New Zealand and the X region of Chile (that area of Chile between 39° and 44° South latitude—see §317.37-5(o));
  • (b) An application for a written permit should be submitted to the Plant Protection and Quarantine Programs (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, Plant Protection and Quarantine, 4700 River Road Unit 136, Riverdale, MD 20737-1236) at least 30 days prior to the arrival of the article at the port of entry. The completed application must contain the following information:
 
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