Upper pitchers of talangensis x ventricosa and ventrata?

[Tilkifox]

Hey all!
Over the last couple of months both my ventrata and my talangensis x ventricosa have been vining like crazy.
Does anyone have any photos of what the upper pitchers look like for these hybrids?
Also, is there any way of telling whether a tendril will product a lower or an upper? The new tendrils for the talangensis x ventricosa all have little loops in them but the lower ones never did (?)
These are my first vining neps so it's all new to me

 

[Acro]

I can give you this, but couldn't find a page for the other one.
Nepenthes x ventrata photos
Good Luck!

 

[Pittsy]

I'll look through some of my x ventrata photos, but generally speaking when the Nepenthes begins to vine it will begin to produce morphologically distinct upper pitchers. You'll only get the lower pitchers on that plant near the base or if it begins to produce basals.


Cheers