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Cyclosecta and Rotundiflora Help

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Hey all,

At the start of Spring most of my Pings were looking great and I was finally seeing some carnivorous growth from most of them expect my Cyclosecta and Rotundiflora. At first, it seemed the Cyclosecta broke dormancy and then rebounded back into it. The Rotundiflora on the other hand seems to have never made a move since I've owned it. What's puzzling me is that every other Ping in the exact same windowsill is doing great. Growing conditions are west windowsill, 69F-78F, ~60% humidity, standing water until tray is completely dried and then refilled, soil mix of sand, perlite, pumice, and a small amount of peat. I'm thinking that perhaps I'm letting the pots dry out to much and it's causing the Cyclosecta to go dormant again? As for the Rotundilfora since it hasn't made any growth since I've owned it I'm at a loss for it. I've also attached some pictures to show how all my other ones are doing just fine. The pictures that show a healthy Cyclosecta and Rotundiflora are from March and the dormant photos of them were taken today.
 

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Bonjour

these 2 species grow 'in situ' on limestone cliff , for rotundiflora even on gypsum .
I do not see a lot of these substrates in yours.
may be if it is possible passes on a window ledge to the east,with morning sun.
your substrate are always wet , now ?
but do not worry, normally, if you practice dormancy, they have just woken up
 
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Bonjour

these 2 species grow 'in situ' on limestone cliff , for rotundiflora even on gypsum .
I do not see a lot of these substrates in yours.
may be if it is possible passes on a window ledge to the east,with morning sun.
your substrate are always wet , now ?
but do not worry, normally, if you practice dormancy, they have just woken up

Sadly, no I do not have any east windows in my apartment. Substrate is wet but the tray gets to dry out before I fill it again, maybe I should stop letting it dry out before I fill it up again? They did go dormant once I planted them in March so hopefully they’re just slow to the start.
 
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For cyclosecta at least, which I have more experience with, clay media should not at all be necessary, Mine do great even in an acidic media. In the first photo, the cyclosecta does not actually look very good to me, looks like it was suffering from low light. However, in the second photo, it looks great, just dormant. I wouldn't worry about that, I've had cyclosecta sometimes randomly enter dormancy but this isn't a sign of anything going wrong. As for the rotundiflora, I found mine was doing poorly under strong lighting. I have heard it is not a high-light Pinguicula so I might try moving it somewhere a little shadier. Then again, I've also seen photos of very healthy, colorful rotundiflora, but perhaps it just colors up more easily than most Pinguicula. Currently my rotundiflora is just in some sphagnum moss where I'm growing an epiphytic Ping. I'm sure it doesn't care for that much, but I was too lazy to put it anywhere else, but it's alive at least, but has been dormant for almost a year and a half, haha.
 
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Bonjour

in a calcareous substrate for cyclosecta
cyclosecta1.JPG
in gypsum substrate for rotundiflora
rot2.jpeg

for me your ping are always in dormancy , wait for their wake up
 
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Here is one in a mix of 1:1:1:1 Peat sand pumice perlite, and one growing on a piece of pumice rock. Not much difference really.
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ffd58b67fbd509e6588cc7eddcb11a62.jpg
Give them sufficient light and water when they want it, and they’ll grow. :)


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For cyclosecta at least, which I have more experience with, clay media should not at all be necessary, Mine do great even in an acidic media. In the first photo, the cyclosecta does not actually look very good to me, looks like it was suffering from low light. However, in the second photo, it looks great, just dormant. I wouldn't worry about that, I've had cyclosecta sometimes randomly enter dormancy but this isn't a sign of anything going wrong. As for the rotundiflora, I found mine was doing poorly under strong lighting. I have heard it is not a high-light Pinguicula so I might try moving it somewhere a little shadier. Then again, I've also seen photos of very healthy, colorful rotundiflora, but perhaps it just colors up more easily than most Pinguicula. Currently my rotundiflora is just in some sphagnum moss where I'm growing an epiphytic Ping. I'm sure it doesn't care for that much, but I was too lazy to put it anywhere else, but it's alive at least, but has been dormant for almost a year and a half, haha.

The picture of it colored up is the same day I got it and potted it up but they were stuck in transit for an extra two days. I'm not sure about the moving it to a shadier spot. As of now that windowsill is only getting about 6 hours of afternoon sun. But if you think the dormant picture (with no color) is looking better than I'm not to worried!
 
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Here is one in a mix of 1:1:1:1 Peat sand pumice perlite, and one growing on a piece of pumice rock. Not much difference really.
efc1a5a7a2c6b7225c0a69350de52d52.jpg
ffd58b67fbd509e6588cc7eddcb11a62.jpg
Give them sufficient light and water when they want it, and they’ll grow. :)


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Now those are gorgeous! I was debating on setting up another light inside for my South Africa dews and the pings. I'm wondering if the light they're getting from the windowsill isn't enough? May persuade me to purchase another light for them.
 
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West should be enough if it’s unobstructed (including no overhanging eaves that might severely reduce the hours of direct light. Otherwise Fluorescents or LED Tube’s should do fine. I’m just starting to experiment with the Yescom LED panels (blue and white) available on Amazon for about $22 so no comment about them yet but friends are certainly having good success with them.


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