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Couple of nepenthes to be id'd

Gidday, I have a couple of Nepenthes that I grew from cuttings last year, however the person I got them off didn't know their names so I was wondering if anyone out there could help? I reckon the larger Nep is either possibly an Alata as for the other, I am stumped - maybe a ventricosa? The larger plant's pitchers are around 15cm long while the smaller plat's pitchers are more like 7cm.

Thanks!
Brad

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Could be Ventrata the pitchers are pretty chubby. An overhead view of the leaves would help.

Zac
 
The plant on the last photo (with the amphora-like pitchers) looks remarkably like what they call "old-style ventrata" here in Taiwan. It's a ~10 year-old ventrata strain that entered the market before today's "standard" ventratas did.

As to the second picture - could there be some sibuyanensis in it?

cheers

Hans the NightGuesser
 
Thanks for the responses, here is a pic of the smaller plant from the top - hope it helps...

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The top plant and the last pic looks like a juvenile ventricosa. My ventricosa which is the same size looks identical to that.
 
I think you have ventricosa (top) and ventrata (bottom). The ventrata looks very alata-ish, but the leaf attachment looks wrong, so I think it's ventrata.
 
Thanks for the responses, I will go with ventricosa and ventrata, respectively.

Cheers.
 
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