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Utrics in bromeliad urns

Does any body know of some and grow them. How easey are they to grow and how do you grow them. Thank you
U. humboldtii and U. nelumbifolia
Neither of these species are easy. I have been tempted to get hold of U. Humboldtii on many occasions but gave up after realising how specialised care they need.
Most growers have found that both these species do better in a waterlogged sphagnum: it is difficult to mimic the conditions in habitat where they grow in broms.