Mystry nep id?

[Glenn]

Any guesses what this may be?  I have my guess but I'm not sure.

 

[The Griffin]

That is huge, is what that is. Did you find that at a nursery?
I would guess either a N. alata or a N. x ventrata. I can't see the pitchers that well.

Joe

 

[schloaty]

sumatrax ventricosa? I've never seen a pitcher with absolutely no wings like that before....It has the pitcher shape of a distillatoria, but that has wings....hmmmmm

 

[rapture]

I'm pretty sure it's iether alata, or an alata hybrid.

 

[Andenes]

I think I'll agree with Rapture

 

[Phil traper2]

Het Glenn did you buy that at English Gardens? My plants Leafs look like that.

 

[Tony Paroubek]

Looks like a N. x Ventrata to me.

Tony

 

[Glenn]

I bought it a English Gardens for $15.00 (a local nursery) they also had larger multi growth piont plants for $24.00 but they didnt look healthy.

My guess was N. alata or some mut from an alata parent. It's not very happy right now do to lack of humidity. It's not pitchering at all! It wasnt too happy when I bought it so things can only improve. I will be buying a mini greenhose at JoAnn ETC. this weekend since it won't fit in my tanks.

Once I get more pitchers maybe I will post some more pictures for a second opinion.

Glenn

 

[Phil traper2]

Glenn go to CVS they are selling Mini greenhouses for 15 bucks ( 2tier). It is agreat deal. So you took my advice and went to English gardens. You should have went to the one on Coolidge and 14 mile. Best nepenthes there they are pitchering on the spot. Did you see any little nepenthes that were like 10 bucks? This nep my guess is a N. Alata hybrid. Hope it gets better and pitchers.--Phil

 

[monkeyman]

To me, it looks like a Lowland N. Alata that's been growing under low light. Look at the coloration of the pitchers and leaves, it's been like that for a while.

I'm sure it will get better soon though.

Mike

 

[The Griffin]

Mike,

Why do you think it's been under low light? To my eye, the leaves look quite green, and there are lowland N. alata forms that are green(then they range to red or orangish and anywhere between).

Regards,

Joe

 

[Phil traper2]

English Gardens only sells Lowland mostly. It is very rare to see a highland nep in there.

 

[monkeyman]

Joe,

Maybe it's just the conditions the picture was taken in, but to me the leaves look like they are a dark green. Although, your right about the different color forms. Glenn may just have a green N. Alata.


Mike

 

[Tony Paroubek]

Sorry it is not N. alata.

The leaf margin carries all the way down the petiole to the stem and wraps partly around. N. alata has a distinct petiole and leaf. The peristome is also not at the right angle. It is somewhere halfway between N. alata and N. ventricosa

The pitcher is distinctly highland N. alata with a bigger inflated base coming from N. ventrata.

It looks nice and green. I suspect it has been overfertilized and kept in lower light by unknowing nurseries giving it that lush growth and no pitchers. Higher light would probably also give the pitchers more color although not all N. x Ventrata are red.
Tony

 

[The Griffin]

Interesting. I never would have thought of it, but is a darker green an attempt to put more chloroplasts into the leaves so it can catch more light to photosynthesize? I never equated dark green with shady conditions before. Actually, the leaves are so shiny, they look like someone sprayed them with leaf polish, lol(I have seen that product locally).
I have a raff x mirabilis here at work in a eastern window, and the leaves are not nearly that dark, but the pitchers are nicely colored.
You learn stuff everyday, I guess.

Regards,

Joe

 

[Glenn]

Thanks for all the comments. After I read them all, I went to the carnivorous plant photo finder web site and looked at the N. ventrata photos. I'm convinced that's what I have.

Its under a 1000 watt hid light. This weekend I will get a mini greenhosue and hopefully it will start pitchering. I'm hoping for some red in the pitchers.

Glenn

 

[Phil traper2]

Glenn were in Michigan did you buy a 1000 watt grow light. Oh and dos any one know a good plave online to buy replacement Flourisnt tubes. --Phil

 

[Darcie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Griffin @ April 19 2003,02:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Interesting. I never would have thought of it, but is a darker green an attempt to put more chloroplasts into the leaves so it can catch more light to photosynthesize? I never equated dark green with shady conditions before. Actually, the leaves are so shiny, they look like someone sprayed them with leaf polish, lol(I have seen that product locally).
 I have a raff x mirabilis here at work in a eastern window, and the leaves are not nearly that dark, but the pitchers are nicely colored.
 You learn stuff everyday, I guess.

 Regards,

 Joe[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The darker green (or rather, different shades of green) just mean the plant is focussing on a different area of the light spectrum. In low light, chloroplast start to die and the plant gets lighter (think grass under the grill syndrom)

 

[Phil traper2]

I am thinking it is because of the pigment. If glenn has the Nep facing a west fasing window for a long time the pigment wold reflect different color and execpts different virety of colors. When you have a nep under good conditions that it is spoused to be in it will have glazed leafs.