Steve, actually i think most ppl were aware about lol and your guys last group purchase. atleast those of us who are actually on the forums alot. dont see any reason why yah cant post that it went ok in this thread(which you and Tropics stated, i even stated i was aware it went off fine) however i think schoalty's analogy to a credit rating is about spot on. also since this is funded by commercial site the dealings need to be kept in PM as money is changing hands for th purchase of plants and not just rembursing for shipping. someone is making a profit even if its not lol.