'Akai Ryu" is a registered cultivar. Do the plants match the cultivar description? If so no problem. If not then you'd be guilty of fraud if you gave or sold them as 'Red Dragon'.[b said:Quote[/b] (JMurphy97 @ June 13 2006,12:32)]So if you grow some seeds and they come out red who cares if you can be right when you call it a "red dragon".
The purpose of registering a cultivar is to establish a standard against which other similar plants can be compared and reduce confusion as to what a given cultivar looks like. Ignoring the standard and naming a plant what you want just adds to the confusion and is irresponsible.[b said:Quote[/b] ]If it's red then it's a "red dragon" to be. Unless it has the short piranha type teeth, then it's a "red piranha" to me. By the way, thanks again Philcula.
[b said:Quote[/b] (BigCarnivourKid @ June 12 2006,11:10)]I got the following from the ICPS Registered Cultivar Names:
"Growth habit and flower morphology are typical for this species. The leaf petiole, blade and trap exhibit dark maroon to burgundy coloration. Any green coloration has only been noted around the center of the plant in mid-winter. The entire trap, interior and exterior, exhibits dark burgundy coloration throughout the year. Grown under laboratory conditions, where nutrient levels can be comparatively high, the plants still exhibit partial burgundy coloration in the traps and leaf blade."
Standard: Carniv.Pl.Newslett.25:50 (1996)
Propagation: vegetative reproduction (originally in vitro culture)
Etymology: after red colouration of plants (Japanese: "Red Dragon")
Be honest and tell them exactly what they are:[b said:Quote[/b] (cp_produtos @ June 14 2006,8:55)]my question came from this situation , I have to much seeds , so I'm thinking on give them to other people.
They came from selfed akai ryu what should I call them ? dionaea typical seeds ?
And when they grow red what explanation do I give to those people ?
[b said:Quote[/b] ]Twenty (20) viable seeds were collected and of these, seven clones were established in issue culture. Of the seven clones grown in vitro, one showed enhanced red coloration and vigor and upon subsequent planting out into soil, immediately developed an astonishing deep burgundy coloration in the leaf blade and trap. This clone was also far superior to any of the parents in terms of growth rate and vigor.
All of the selfed seedlings may be all red, but they may not retain the size and vigor of the original parent.[b said:Quote[/b] ]This clone was also far superior to any of the parents in terms of growth rate and vigor.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]What is the cultivar description of a red dragon? Red leaves and traps? No green? How can it not match then? I'm not really gonna get into it.
Sounds good on paper but DNA fingerprinting is exspensive. Not something the common Joe could afford to do on the plants in his collection to verify their authenticity. Not that it woould do them much good in this case as there has not (to my knowledge) been a DNA fingerprint done of D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'. So you'd have nothing to compare results to. The second twist to this is that according to the ICPS, if it matches the description of the 'type' plant then it can be called that. If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck then it's a duck.[b said:Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Sep. 01 2006,8:13)]if the DNA is not the same, then it's not Red Dragon. it's really that simple.